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biting insects driving me crazy

(10 posts)
  • Started 7 months ago by slam
  • Latest reply from samoya22

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  1. slam (Member)

    Recently moved into a new apartment. Started scratching strongly a week or so ago, and getting bitten all over my body both when sleeping and when walking around. I can feel things both crawling and jumping around, but can't see them. When I walked into my bedroom, I could feel insects jumping around on me. The interesting thing is that I don't have a pet, and according to my landlord there has never been an animal in the apartment ever. I do spend time outside on a flagstone patio, and there are wild animals that are known to visit there.

    Soooooo....I'm treating it as a flea infestation, even though I don't know if it's fleas or not. Started with Sentry Defense, which seemed to do very little, moved to DeFlea, which seemed to have an impact. Now spraying fabrics with a commercial orange peel extract, spraying myself with essential oils (eucalyptus & orange), and treating my carpet with salt and borax.

    Trying to use less toxic stuff, not sure I'm thinking clearly as I haven't slept more than 2 hrs in the last week. Are there other types of insect this could be? Is there a way to treat for a variety of insects at the same time? Any insights here would be welcome.

    --Scratching and sleepless in the Rockies

    Posted 7 months ago #
  2. samoya22 (Jonathan)

    So, you can't actually see the bugs that are biting you? But you can feel them jumping around? You might want to check out something called Morgellon's syndrome/disease. Otherwise, if you're treating for fleas, you're doing all the right things--if to excess, which worries me. Spraying all of that stuff around your house, whether it's "natural" or not may not be your best option. I would look further into identifying your problem first.

    I would also seriously look into seeing a doctor to help identify what it is that's causing your symptoms. If they can confirm that it is in fact bug bites, then you can rule out Morgellons. I don't know what else to tell you. Has anyone had similar issues with unidentified bug infestations that can't be seen?

    Posted 7 months ago #
  3. collegeguy (Member)

    I have a similar condition/problem...
    I moved into a new apartment, started getting this crawling sensation all the time, then biting, and now itching as well. I thought it was fleas too. Previous occupant had 3 dogs, a cat, a rodent of some kind. And now that's it's winter the place has mice as well. Treated it for a few weeks, only got worse. Now I know it's not fleas!

    A trick to tell if it IS fleas. Drag your white socks across the carpet. They should come up as red, darker patches. I heard that fleas can be dormant for up to a year and a half. Another trick: use a small light/ reading lamp. Put it above the floor about a foot at night when no other lights around. Under the light put a small dish of cooking oil (water doesn't work as well). In the mourning, you'll see them stuck in the top of it.

    Another possibility: mites. These guys are small, can't be seen. Many types, common biters are scabies which is a human condition. They burrow in your skin causing itchiness. They tend to really like in between your fingers a lot and joints like elbows, behind knees etc. Other mites are bird mites and rodent mites (two types) they can feed off of humans when host animal is absent. However, I find that they can not reproduce off of humans. The trick is to get rid of host animals. Bird Nests, Mice, Pigeons, Squirrals, et cetera.
    One trick to tell if it's mites is to put a piece of black construction paper on the carpet, vertically if possible. They will climb up it and wait at the top to grab onto something / someone. Use a light and mangifying glass to check, usually they are white and you can see them against the black.

    I am now fairly convinced that I have body lice! They are horrible! Can't get rid of them! Been over a month. After doing much research and ruling out everything else, I've come to that conclusion. I thought they were fleas, jumping at first. But now I know they like to crawl. I think the tiny, tiny ones can jump / fly due to static / changes in static vs. enviroment. They pop up and land by static attraction I think. I was wondering if I was going crazy at first, but now I know I'm infested. This is very rare in the united states... they say. I identified were I picked them up at. Local laundrymat... large somalian population washes their clothes there, and I must have got them from using cold water. I saw the buggers there after I found out what to look for. Somalia = war torn / over-crowded = lice infested.
    These guys live in your clothes... they say... but really they live all over your stuff and on the floor, carpet, etc. I now sleep on a cot in my kitchen, all other rooms closed, wash my clothes everyday, put them in plastic bags, and take like 3-4 showers. It sucks, still can't get rid of them. My apartment keeps reinvesting me. Got 100% free, bought new set of clothes, went to parents for Thanksgiving, had no problems there. Came back, and SLAM... Instant misery. Sleep like 2-4 hours at a time.

    I really hope you don't have them! The internet does not have very much info on them and it's of very low quality. You can find them on your clothing sometimes, depends on the color of clothing. Lice are very small < 3 mm (a dime width is 1 mm). They are usually little white specks, oval. Showers are the best treatment. You need to wash clothing above 130 degrees. Local laundrymats don't get the hot, so I'm screwed. Plus I'm in MN so I can't wash my jacket, hat, etc everyday. I'm in college so I don't have the time to properly fight this. Winter break will be here soon, plus I ordered some safe chemical alternatives off the net. They say use Lice shampoos but you can't for all over your body, they burn too bad, and don't do shit.
    What helps me is I like to boil my socks, boxers. Iron everything else. Wash bedding everyday. (sleep on a cot with a blanket) Get drunk, forget about them and pass out :)

    My newest remedy: Bought some organic Tea Tree Shampoo (Jason Brand) They hate it! I put it on and they start biting me all over (agony) before they die / fall off. It's really good for your skin / dry skin. Australian indigenous people use it all the time. It's one of the very few natural anti-parasite items! Also anti-bacterial, anti-fungal. Otherwise Neem Oil is good.

    They really like your feet, socks, legs, thighs, and back. Don't know if that sounds familar or not.

    I've kinda become an expert on these things since my life now sucks.
    Hope this post helps.

    --- InfectedMN@yahoo.com

    Posted 7 months ago #
  4. samoya22 (Jonathan)

    Funny, I had a dream about your post. Apparently, Slam's and CollegeGuy's problems were caused by sea monkeys. How did I come to this conclusion? Good question.

    But colleg guy is right about one thing. Tea tree oil is a really good natural treatment for skin parasites and mites. I would still suggest going to the doctor. Both of you.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  5. badlybugged (Member)

    All y'all need to read the info at [edited out]. Don't panic, but there seems to be an epidemic of bb infestation in the USA.

    [note to readers: please don't promote sites in this forum. thanks.]

    Posted 6 months ago #
  6. barbnina (Member)

    I'm being bitten on my thighs, butt cheeks, and calves. I never see what bites me. There are itchy bumps that are skin colored and that seem to cluster--i.e. never just one bump. My husband does not ever get bitten. I can't take it anymore! I've read lots of different possibilities and ideas for identifying but does my situation sound familiar to anyone? Anything that could help me narrow down the possibilities would be great. Oh, I think they're in my clothes too. I get bitten mostly in bed, but other places in the house as well.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  7. Loviatar (Member)

    I recommend considering rodent or bird mites. You can often feel the crawling, stinging bites, and a large variety of bite marks (vesicular papules--like zits--bumps like from mosquitos, red holes like a pin prick, a clear blister with a red splotch around it that itches etc.). Most of the literature from public informatives underestimates the discomfort from these mites and the persistence of these mites and often recommend ineffective solutions. I recommend trying to find a host; mice, rats, birds, bats, racoons, squirrel nests. Also, take steps to control the mites. I recommend googling "birdmites" and click on my username at the top of this post.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  8. collegeguy (Member)

    Yes, unfortunately, Loviatar is right in my case.
    I have just come to the conclusion, about 2-3 weeks ago, that I am the victim of mites.
    I am pretty sure that I have scabies, which is the human mite, although it is possible that they could be rodent mites or bird mites...
    I have tried to address this logically, and going from one hypothesis to another, have arrived at this latest theory.
    I can find relief with different products, and being careful of my clothing, bedding, especially carpets, etc. A previous tenant in my rental house stated that the guy who lived here before me had some kind of mite. Ear mites in cats he said, however this is wrong, it is some other kind of mite.
    Barbnina's case sounds only too familiar as well. I would consider this condition strongly. It has been my experience that these critters are somewhat host specific. Reading a lot of online posts on the subject, a lot of times a parent and a child will get this condition, however the other parents and numerous children will not develop these symptoms. We are the lucky ones I guess.
    The absolute best and cheapest remedies have been Borax laundry booster and Epson salt. Wash clothing in Borax, sprinkle on carpets as well. It takes 2 days in carpets before it starts to work, and is completely safe to humans. The FDA recently rose the safe intake that humans can consume (Don't consume ANY, this just says how safe the natural Borax mineral is) Epson salt is the best skin remedy. Take a shower, afterwards mix 50 percent epson salt, 50 percent water and rub on skin, allow to air dry or blow dry is even better. Your skin turns bright white b/c the water evaporates and leaves the salt covering your skin. It feels weird having the salt on your skin... really dry, but when you rub it off, your skin is soft underneath. Many people soak tired feet or warts in epson salt. If the mites are extremely bad, sleep with the salt on your skin. It rubs off onto the bed which is annoying but the little buggers dry up right away and it heals all bite marks on you.
    I joined the forum http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies and they have great advice from many sufferers. The CDC considers this to be a STD since it can be transmitted with close encounters, including sleeping in the same bed. This is actually good news because you can goto a free clinic, like planned parenthood to have this diagnosed. Actually, I'm sure that the low end places see many more cases of this and are able to easily diagnose it, whereas a hospital or general doctor might think your crazy and be unable to diagnose it, even though it usually only involves a general skin scraping.
    Sorry for the long post, hope that this helps people out there with similar conditions. I think I'm going to go join Loviatar's site now.
    Best Wishes everyone and don't go spreading it around if you have it, and don't despair.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  9. kpaxton (Member)

    I had a problem several years ago with body lice ( crabs ) . I used Rid-X and it works. It may burn a little and you have to leave it on for a while before rinsing off but it is worth the trouble and expense. Remember you also need to treat you entire home. Floors, furniture and bedding. Don't be afraid to ask the pharmacist about products for control of lice. Also note if you live in a apartment it is the managers duty to get the apartment treated. If they refuse call the health dept. in your area. they will help you.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  10. samoya22 (Jonathan)

    You know, if it makes Rid sound any better (and I don't know if it does), Rid actually uses a plant extract known as Pyrethrum, rather than synthetic insecticides. So, I guess you could say it's kind of organic. Of course, there are a couple of other ingredients. But what paxton is saying is something I might say. However, there is a difference between body lice and crabs.

    There are three kinds of lice: head lice, body lice, and pubic lice. Keep that in mind when you are attempting to solve this problem.

    Posted 2 months ago #

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